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Re: Ping: Ethan Edwards

Posted by Hajduk on Sunday, August 31 2014 at 08:38:21AM
In reply to Ping: Ethan Edwards posted by rainbowloom on Friday, August 29 2014 at 4:47:52PM


I think it's a safe bet that most children, even if they understand what's going on in a literal sense, would be quite incapable of grasping the connotations.

Funny that. A now 8yo left very clear when I met her, when she was 6, that she wouldn't mouth-kiss me because she was reserving that for a boyfriend, which I was not. She also has no problems if I see her panties accidentally, but she is very self-conscious if our play risks showing them to others.

So she certainly knows the connotations.

And it isn't about the way she's raised, because her sister, now 5, but ever since she was 3, mouth-kisses me no problems, and her only problem with malfunctions is comfort, not exhibitionism. So, even controlled for education they are just two different girls. But the boyfriend line clearly tells me she knows what a mouth kiss, even a peck, could be interpreted as.

I think that feeling taken advantage of is inherent in the situation, but may be exacerbated by societal attitudes that can change somewhat.

Show me one thing about parenting that is not taking advantage of children. Sure, parents can be and most wish to be, benevolent dictators. Some even wish to relinquish dictatorship for democracy sooner instead of later. But they are always dictators.

I don't want to see attitudes towards sex shift so much that it becomes meaningless in the broader context of one's life, which is essentially what would have to happen if adult-child sex were to become OK.

Few people remember much about their childhood. But among the things they remember, the majority clearly remembers their one or two crushes on grownups. Both celebrities and people in their lives. One Direction may still be inaccessible if adult-child sex became OK. But the teacher or neighbor she has a crush on will not. And I am very sure she will remember him, very fondly, forever, and he will have a lot of meaning to her.

It's not contradictory to embrace the belief that sex with children is wrong, yet still feel positive about being a pedophile. There's much more to pedophilia than sex.

It's not contradictory to embrace the belief that exterminating Jews is wrong, yet still feel positive about being a Nazi. There's much more to Nazism than anti-Semitism.

Sex is overrated, and I can live a perfectly happy life without it, so long as I continue to practice girl love.

You miss the point.

The central problem is not whether or not we can live a perfectly life without sex, which of course we can, but that it is nobody's decision but hers and mine to make.

I am very sure than even in the world I am fighting for, the aforementioned 8yo will always be rather unlikely to decide she wants openly sexual stuff from me. I have no problems with that. I have a problem with you or someone else deciding that for her instead of her.









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