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Posted by Butterfly Kisses on 2022-March-29 23:26:51 EDT, Tuesday
In reply to Spirited debate over the war with Tom O'Carroll posted by Dissident on 2022-March-27 22:23:28 EDT, Sunday
This all being said what I wrote about fully supporting Ukraine was before Zelensky shut down opposition political parties (supposedly just for the war, but I know freedom taken away is rarely recovered). While I have no special love for socialists, communists, Russian people's parties etc. I absolutely defend their right to exist.
If I were president Biden I would make any additional aid contingent on restoring the rights of those parties to exist. I would also demand a full investigation into abuse of Russian soldiers. Though the second one does appear to be happening. Of course I'm not Biden and major media other than Fox News barely noted Zelensky shutting down those political parties.
I still support Ukraine having a right to defend itself. I do not think Zelensky is acting alone here. I fully believe he has the support of at least over 50% of Ukrainians in not just rolling over and letting Russia do what it wants. If I were Ukrainian I would accept no NATO, but not demilitarization. Which is another demand of Russia's and the big one. If Ukraine has no army they can easily just be grabbed. But, that's just me. I support the people of Ukraine to make any decision they want in regards to how they are ruled.
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Responses
- Thank you for a fair response, and Re: - Dissident on 2022-March-31 00:54:59 EDT, Thursday - (12 / 0 / 8)
- Responses - Butterfly Kisses on 2022-April-02 23:10:27 EDT, Saturday - (12 / 0 / 7)
- don't guess when there are data - Tyrone Slothrop on 2022-April-05 17:58:49 EDT, Tuesday - (11 / 0 / 1)
- One thing led to another - Hajduk on 2022-April-05 18:45:50 EDT, Tuesday - (11 / 0 / 0)
- The crucial problem with your argument - Stephen James on 2022-April-03 02:48:39 EDT, Sunday - (11 / 0 / 4)
- There is no way - Butterfly Kisses on 2022-April-03 16:42:17 EDT, Sunday - (11 / 0 / 2)
- The thing that dwarfs all others in importance - Stephen James on 2022-April-04 05:29:59 EDT, Monday - (12 / 0 / 0)
- Which is why - Hajduk on 2022-April-03 22:58:39 EDT, Sunday - (11 / 0 / 0)
- Positions before now - Hajduk on 2022-April-03 11:53:42 EDT, Sunday - (13 / 0 / 0)
- There is no way - Butterfly Kisses on 2022-April-03 16:42:17 EDT, Sunday - (11 / 0 / 2)
- don't guess when there are data - Tyrone Slothrop on 2022-April-05 17:58:49 EDT, Tuesday - (11 / 0 / 1)
- Responses - Butterfly Kisses on 2022-April-02 23:10:27 EDT, Saturday - (12 / 0 / 7)