I feel we are pretty close on the subject of Zelensky. I said that he MAY be quite a decent man, as I didn't want to commit myself too firmly on his moral worthiness. It is not easy to give a precise judgement about this unless you know the individual on a personal level. The important thing, which we both agree on, is that he should end the Ukrainian resistance and broadly accede to Russian demands. But I fear he will not do this until Ukraine has been half-obliterated.