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Re: Shooting yourself in the foot.

Posted by Joey Bishop on Friday, July 25 2014 at 4:17:58PM
In reply to Shooting yourself in the foot. posted by Dante on Friday, July 25 2014 at 10:28:13AM

And for Ghod's sake, you never play into the stereotypes in making claims about your people. The NAACP never implied that their disagreement with Malcolm was due to him giving in to the violence black men are "prone to." If they had, they'd have been shooting themselves in the foot.

When VirPed argues that Peds are inclined to change or repeal the AoC laws because they think with their d*cks when it comes to LGs, then they're admitting that their reasons for reassessing the CP laws are because Peds can't stop thinking with their d*cks when it comes to pictures of nekkid LGs.

This is a very good point, and I've taken Ethan on along those lines numerous times.

And of all the people to hang in effigy; B4UACT? And why? Because B4UACT focussed on working with MHPs but wouldn't make a claim against an issue largely irrelevant to their work?

This is extremism. They might've well asked, "are you now or have you ever been a Communist?" When you're talking about the real progress made by B4UACT, this sideshow isn't the issue. But to VirPed it is significant enough to break with them over. And significant enough to cast aspersions on their motives.

It isn't enough for VirPed to succeed in their own way doing something different. They must try to tarnish anyone who either disagrees with them, or Ghod forbid, remains neutral, like B4UACT.

By denouncing B4UACT these extremists have shown that they have no interest in being the public face of a more inclusive movement. They can't tolerate dissent. And what they can't silence at home, they will impugn everywhere else. They could've remained silent about the "motives" of others and focussed on what they believe. But they've chosen to make their unfounded slurs central to their public identity.

When they sell the public on the notion that Ped desires are somehow exceptional in their selfish ability to cloud judgement, they're promoting a slur that sets us back.

I'm not entirely familiar with what they've said about B4U-Act, but this is also a very legitimate criticism. These two groups should be working together and not infighting. VP has to decide whether they care more about a big tent movement to help all of our lives, or about making themselves look good to mainstream society. We can see now what the civil rights leaders chose to do and the results that followed. VP needs to learn from their success and adopt the same strategy.




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