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Posted by Gimwinkle on 2020-May-15 13:18:25 EDT, Friday
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Heironymus wrote:

NO
Posted by hieronymus on Friday, May 15 2020 at 09:12:49AM
In reply to Uh, yes, no, maybe, and probably not. A mix posted by Gimwinkle on Tuesday, April 28 2020 at 01:25:09AM

it is unequivocally NOT the parents' right to do this.

I replied that I think this is important to discuss so I wanted to bring this up to the top, here.

He was commenting on my statement. I'll just copy the whole part that I think he was objecting to.

I think, as a general rule, that a human (or other animal) parent has the moral responsibility, no matter what others think, to do for his/her child the best that he/she knows how. Even if, from MY point of view, it's wrong. A killer whale grabbing a young seal from the shoreline and horribly tossing it about JUST to play with it, in MY point of view, it's wrong. But, as bad as it is FROM my point of view, it's nature and I would not stop it. I would cry deeply inside (just as I did when I saw the video), but I would not stop it. If a parent wants to cut his/her child WITHOUT trauma, then it is the parent's right (moral and legal) to do that. Even though I would object to the practice (moral or legal being beside the point.)

H, if you don't mind me continuing the conversation (because I think both our sides are that important), I'd like to comment:

If a mother gives birth, should she cut the umbilical cord? That's violence, no? But it's nature. Until a child reaches a year or so in age, there is very little cognition going on. Yes, there is tons of learning, but can the child make the decision to have an appendix removed (if it were infected?) The parent must make the decision. The child cannot.

As a child, I would have been in favor of ice cream and root beer for breakfast, lunch and dinner. My mom would not have allowed it. No MY decision, but hers.

Again, Heironymus, this debate is very important from BOTH perspectives and I hope you don't take offense that I am opposing you. Please make any arguments you wish freely. You are my friend and I will take any discussion on this as just that, a good debate.

Hugs to you, okay?

Gimwinkle

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