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Todd....

Posted by Dissident on Sunday, July 09 2006 at 01:14:01AM
In reply to Re: 'Tis a sad day, indeed. posted by Todd on Sunday, July 09 2006 at 0:07:42PM

...you didn't simply change your heart on one issue. It was the BIGGEST issue of them all. You got upset and pissed off at us because one of us was uncordial to you and most others stayed neutral, and then you turn around and change your heart on the most important issue affecting us as MAA's. Nice of you to punish the entire community like that. The non-choicers don't need your help, Todd...they have the support of virtually the entire general public. We non-choicers and youth liberationists are the ones with our backs to the wall, and who REALLY need you.

Do I think we have common ground with these antis? No, Todd, we DON'T. These antis say they are out to stop the rape of children, a goal we all share, yet they are determined to define ALL mutually consensual activity between adults and people under 18 as "rape." They defend the continuation of laws that make the media depict us as monsters and the police to constantly harass us, to actually threaten us with the death penalty if we dare to have an illegal relationship, etc. Yet you suggest we have common ground?

Todd, I can't pretend to know what is going on in these antis' heads, but I can't help worrying that at least SOME of them have the goal of getting as much personal info on us as they can for who knows what reason. They have lied and done dishonest things prodigeously in their past dealings with us, and I can't imagine that they are all sincerely extending an olive branch to this community. I think some of them would be pleased to lie to us further in order to "stamp us out" as a menace to the status quo.

My goal is to create a society where youth is emancipated and sexuality is treated as a positive and empowering aspect of life, not something terrible that will ruin lives if put into practice. Do these anti's suppose youth liberation? No, they support the CONTINUED oppression of youths as pre-citizens, thus forcing them into the same type of situation in which the majority of actual sexual abuse occurs. Is this part of our anti-rape agenda? If so, it doesn't sound like much of an agenda to me.

I used to be a participating member of Open Hands, and right now, I think joining this CAT forum would be a return to something like that. Maybe in the future, if I get enough good reports from working with these people, I will join. But I will never trust any of them as friends.

And now that you have decided that you're among the antis, Todd, I will NOT trust you as a friend or with any of my personal information. What is the NEXT thing you're going to do when someone from the pro-choice side pisses you off, Todd? Join forces with John Walsh and become a CA?

I'm sorry, Todd, I'm not saying this to hurt your feelings, but I used to trust you as much as anyone else here. You changed your heart on THE issue, the most important one of all, and for that reason, I don't trust you in the same way as I did before.

--Dissident

Dissident





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