when? thats not so important. whats important is that i confronted it head on and have made it known offline as well,much to my disappointment. if you want to pin a date to it i would say it was the day i first started posting here. look it up,will ya?

furthermore,i was just saying that slow and easy doesnt always win wars. you have to know when to run and when to charge. someone said that,i think.

love ya,

turtle man