Thanks so much qtns, that is a really great help. I love the bit about 'The Pedo Talk'.

I don't want her to stop... trust me. I would find it hard to de-escalate the little shows she does for me. I am comfortable that if she does that of her own free will as presently, and I do not tell her it is 'wrong' or 'dirty' or even the very well worded reasons you suggested I give her, that no damage can come to me. It seems the way she is with me would be read by any other member of the family to be the way any innocent kid would be getting changed in front of their dad or similar family member.

If the little shows stopped, I'd be very sad. But then again, each time I see one, it starts of my damned adult mind... so I suppose that is the sense in which her stopping becomes an unwelcome relief of sorts.

It's like if you have cake all around you, you get fat from eating too much of the cake. But if there's no cake around and the cupboard is bare, you just find some other way to amuse yourself. The trouble is, her damn cake lightens up my life so much :) LGs eh?

I think she is not yet mature enough for The Pedo Talk, and is not really aware of sex. She has said things randomly that show she doesn't quite understand what goes where, how babies are made, or even what the male and female parts are called. I hasten to add this is not from conversations with me, but ones I have overheard when she talks to others, or talks about her dog, or about her older brother, etc.

One other thing that is true is that I think she does enjoy testing her attractiveness on me, and I do believe she sees my eyes light up, even if I try to hide it. I have said, without thinking, that she is 'cute' after one little show, so perhaps this gave her the answer she was looking for. I couldn't help but say it - she was cute!

So maybe you're right, now she is learning that she does have an effect of sorts on me (even though I try my best to hide it apart from that one word comment once), she enjoys knowing the effect.

The toilet incident was a strange version of 'show me mine and I'll show you yours'. Of course as I said, I refused to show her anything of the sort. I made her leave the room, and refused to go to the toilet in front of her. I did everything expected of me. Yet still she returned later, and went to the toilet in front of me, thus 'showing me hers' anyway! I even covered my eyes and said 'I won't look', but it was too late - I'd already seen it - she was that quick to make sure I did.

There are always other adults in the house. There has been virtually no concern spoken about it, other than this: She told me that her mother told her she needs to spend less time around me, because she may be taking me away from my GF. I suspect mom was also a little concerned that the LG may be getting to close to me in other ways, yet I have a great relationship with the mother, and there is no outward concern - just that one comment. And what did the LG decide to do? Ignore mom's advice. Aw, gotta love her. :)

So there it is... I won't discourage her from expressing herself as nature is guiding her to, but will take your advice so that if the time comes where it starts to cross lines, I can have The Pedo Talk with her. That idea really does resolve so many things, because it leaves her knowing that I reciprocate her feelings, whilst understanding why I can't return them physically.

Then we can just take a family holiday in Spain when she's 13, as the AoC is 13 too :)

Thanks again - sorry for typing so long. There is a lot to get off my mind.

Peace,
Azure