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More suggestions, and votes *against*

Posted by Hajduk on Saturday, February 22 2020 at 10:20:31PM
In reply to Options posted by Sasha on Saturday, February 15 2020 at 4:12:21PM


Against March 1, because it is too abstract. I agree with the idea that nameable victims be associated with the anniversary: May Day (Labour Day in most of the world) is associated with a workers' demonstration; Women's Day is associated with a deadly fire in a factory employing women; Holocaust Day is associated with Auschwitz; and of course Gay Day is associated with Stonewall. All of your other suggestions have nameable victims.

Against April 16, April 22, and September 22. In these cases, it seems as if the victims had actually previously engaged in contact. I am pro contact and I am for abolition of laws banning it; further at least the first two were definitely consensual acts. And in any case murder is murder. But I think that a day designed to focus on MAPs being the victims of legal and cultural discrimination for who we are should not be set on a date associated with a guy who did engage in contact, even if the contact was legal or should always have been legal. The other options (March 18, July 14, July 19, July 24, October 1, and October 23; plus the suggestion of October 20) meet this standard.

I would like to add that yes, these are cases of murder or suicide; but there could be a case for unfair arrests, convictions, and acts of threats and harassment, short of murder: Kevin Brown, Jack McClellan, the model sites LS and Webe, Warren Jeffs, Eric Eoin Marques...

I vote slightly against July 14 because it's already a national holiday: Bastille Day in France. Of course, April 25 is also ANZAC Day. So it isn't necessarily a hard objection. And if you dig deep, maybe you could find more matches. (October 1 is the national day for Red China, but since I don't like Mao I don't care to overlap).

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I will add some more suggestions involving deaths:

April 19: Final raid on the Branch Davidians by US federal forces, 21 children killed.

April 21: Clovis Ivan Claxton commits suicide [the link is dated April 22, which matches another one of your options, but you will notice the text clarifies his suicide happened on Thursday, which a calendar review shows was April 21].
Further information: https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20050422/convicted-sex-offender-commits-suicide-over-neighborhood-signs
(Same link at the clickable box at the bottom)

June 27: Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism) is murdered by a mob.

VARIABLE DATE: Good Friday. The Gospels strongly suggest Jesus having been a BL and Apostle John the Beloved having been his YF. Obviously, Good Friday points to the date Jesus is executed. Drawbacks are that it is a variable date and that Gregorian calendar and Julian calendar churches usually differ on the date.


One suggestion not directly involving deaths:

July 1 or November 1: The former corresponds to the enactment of England's (notice, England, not the whole UK, much less the whole British Empire) Offences Against the Person Act of 1828. The latter to the enactment of a new equivalent Act in 1861. The former establishes the first modern AOC (at 10). The latter raises the age to 12, and has the historical relevance of being written during and pushed by the Victorian Era sex hysteria, the first truly anti pedophilia movement in history and which leads directly to the anti pedophilia hysteria of all later dates, up to now, and in an increasing number of places, countries and cultures. Nobody was murdered in the strict sense of all of the previously mentioned dates; but without these new statutes, it is difficult to see how all of those murders (and aggressions short of murder) could have happened, and moreover how could general society not have strongly disapproved of them even if they still happened.
Note: July 1 is Canada Day.

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Whichever day wins the vote, I'll join.




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