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Stupid is as stupid does

Posted by Gimwinkle on Saturday, December 28 2019 at 5:37:15PM
In reply to I scroogled "Minor Attracted Persons" posted by hieronymus on Saturday, December 28 2019 at 3:28:17PM

But all in all, we're still up against a planet full of ignorant stupid people.

I thought most people knew that. To substantiate the statistic you wrote consider,

In 216 BC, Hannibal Barca famously crossed the Alps into Italy with only 40,000 soldiers. A vast Roman army of around 80,000 men was raised to oppose him. Around 60,000 Romans perished owing to their generals’ over-confidence, and falling head-first into Hannibal's tactical maneuvering. It ranks alongside the the Battle of the Somme as one of the bloodiest days in western military history. The guys staying behind the lines really screwed up and people died. (No matter, they're just people.)

U.S. Civil war: Battle deaths (Union forces only): 140,414. But if you include the Confederacy, then the total comes to 498,332, making it America’s deadliest war. Nobody invaded anybody. One part of a group just wanted to go their own way. The other part of that group refused to allow it and... well, people died. (No matter, they're just people.)

World War II, 1941-1946: Battle deaths: 291,557. Yes, there were unwanted invasions. But if you only knew the major tactical mistakes made by the war's managers...

Oh, and I forgot one: World War I. "Let's all just stay here in one place and kill each other for a couple years!" So, they did. (No matter, they're just people.)

In Vietnam days, the U.S. government could not get enough people to die in its war there. So, they enslaved them (conscription) and sent many thousands to die only to later say, "Fuck it!" in 1973.

In 2003, according to U.S. President George W. Bush and U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair, the coalition aimed "to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people." (There were no weapons of mass destruction. But is sure was fun, eh?)


In 1978 Paris Carriger was found guilty of shattering another man’s skull with a cast-iron skillet. When Carriger brought both his constitutional and innocence claims before the US Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit he was still denied relief. The chief witness against Carriger was a police informant, Robert Dunbar, who was given immunity for three felonies in exchange for his testimony. Later, Dunbar admitted that it was he, not Carriger, who had committed the murder and that he had lied at the trial. He even admitted his guilt in court and again just before his death. Dunbar was inconsistent in his recantation at times taking back his admission of guilt. When a three judge panel of the Court of Appeals reviewed this new evidence, they concluded that Dunbar's recantation does, however, "show his general unreliability as a witness. We therefore entertain serious doubts about Dunbar's credibility and these doubts are particularly troubling because the government relied heavily on Dunbar's testimony in prosecuting Carriger." Doubt about the government's chief witness led to doubt about Carriger's guilt . "We acknowledge", the court wrote, "that Carriger is not unquestionably guilty. Compared to many other capital cases we have seen, the evidence of guilt here is not overwhelming." However, the court would still not grant Carriger any relief. "The thinness of the prosecutor's case, however, is an insufficient basis on which to grant relief under Herrera and its progeny which put the burden on the petitioner to show he is unquestionably innocent. This Carriger has not done." Clearly innocent defendants face a daunting task in trying to avoid execution under this standard.

Joseph Payne faced a similar dilemma on the eve of his scheduled execution in Virginia in November, 1996 Numerous eyewitnesses to the crime of which he was accused had come forward after his trial to testify that Payne was not involved in the prison murder. Here, too, the courts acknowledged their doubts about Payne's guilt. The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals acknowledged that Payne offered copious evidence in his favor and a wealth of evidence that the chief witness against him was an appalling and known prevaricator. But those doubts were not enough for it to issue a stay from his pending execution. Fortunately, because of the doubts about his guilt, the Governor of Virginia stepped in just a few hours before the execution and commuted Payne's sentence to life.

In many places in this world (some even places within a country or state), there are Age of Consent laws that "draw lines in the sand" and make someone a day short of a birthday celebration a heinous criminal then, the following day, they are completely acceptable. One day. How can heinous-ity exist one day and not the next?

And then, someone here, kissed his little lover twice on the (*ahem*) lips in separate kisses, each of which brought the little Miss to orgasm. The government punished them heavily while two other people, each in separate incidences around the same time and city, killed someone and were released shortly after their convictions.

This is getting a bit wordy so I'll stop here. But, "a planet full of ignorant stupid people?" Yup.

Gimwinkle





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