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Re: You are wrong
Posted by Ominous on 2010-March-18 00:26:41 EDT, Thursday
In reply to Re: You are wrong posted by Goethe on 2010-March-18 00:12:50 EDT, Thursday
Source? Even if this is true, this does not negate the fact that it is often times Muslim fundamentalists who are to blame, unless, of course, all of that is a complete fabrication.
"Another thing that happens is that some of these "innocent civilians" are not so innocent at all. The Muslim freedom fighters (what the U.S govt always call "terrorists") kill them only because they are found colluding with the Western invaders."
From what I've read, many Muslims collude with Western forces because they want to get rid of the violent terrorists who are a threat to their lives. Also, many feel oppressed by the traditional status quo (which, apparently, is what the Muslim Freedom Fighters are fighting for), so they welcome the new change. I, for one, would rather die than to have to submit to that status quo--many Muslims are progressive, and no longer want to be ruled by an archaic theocracy.
"Let's hypothetically suppose China had invaded the U.S. You would probably feel like shooting any American collaborators YOURSELF! You really need to experience that before you can understand it?"
That is a poor analogy because each of those countries--US, China, and Mid-East countries--have a completely differnt political atmosphere; the US invading the Mid-East has vastly different implications than China invading the US.
Again, many people in the Mid-East are welcoming Westerners because they are tired of the oppressive theocracy, and would like to see some change. I seriously doubt that many Americans would welcome any sort of change that China may envision for, and forcibly impose on us.
Whether or not I would feel like shooting American collabterators in this hypothetical situation largely depends on what their motivations are--if they are doing something that I agree with, then I would not feel like killing them. If they, however, were merely posing a threat to my way of like, and if I didn't want my way of life to be forcibly changed in any way, then yes, I would feel like killing them.
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- And exactly
- lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 17:30:40 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: And exactly - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:20:56 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: You are wrong - Goethe on 2010-March-17 13:15:45 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 43)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-18 12:54:55 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 32)
- Re: You are wrong - lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 18:04:37 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:51:22 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: You are wrong - Goethe on 2010-March-18 11:15:40 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-19 00:06:59 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: You are wrong - lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 18:21:42 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:27:11 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: You are wrong - lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 18:21:42 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-19 00:06:59 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- some disagreement - Baldur on 2010-March-18 10:47:13 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 25)
- Re: some disagreement - Ominous on 2010-March-18 11:04:54 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 24)
- Re: some disagreement - Goethe on 2010-March-18 11:58:57 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Re: some disagreement - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:17:02 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- in over your depth - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:09:59 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: in over your depth - Goethe on 2010-March-20 08:44:14 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Rise of the Machines - Baldur on 2010-March-20 09:00:27 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: in over your depth - Goethe on 2010-March-20 08:44:14 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- in over your depth - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:09:59 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- ping: Goethe - Baldur on 2010-March-19 00:18:10 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: ping: Goethe - Goethe on 2010-March-18 13:19:54 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: some disagreement - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:17:02 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: some disagreement - Baldur on 2010-March-18 11:23:29 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 16)
- Re: some disagreement - Goethe on 2010-March-19 00:57:33 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 15)
- Re: some disagreement - Ominous on 2010-March-19 10:58:58 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: some disagreement - Baldur on 2010-March-18 13:42:26 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 13)
- On religion - Goethe on 2010-March-19 08:54:29 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 9)
- Re: On religion - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:55:25 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: On religion - i support zionism - apple on 2010-March-20 10:22:31 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Why have any religions AT ALL? - Ominous on 2010-March-19 11:04:40 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Re: Why have any religions AT ALL? - Goethe on 2010-March-20 00:59:44 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- Re: Why have any religions AT ALL? - Goethe on 2010-March-20 06:13:14 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- theocracy - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:38:19 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: theocracy - Goethe on 2010-March-20 09:07:13 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- can i walk with you tomorrow, Goethe? - apple on 2010-March-20 11:07:00 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: theocracy - Baldur on 2010-March-20 09:28:18 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: theocracy - Goethe on 2010-March-20 09:07:13 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- theocracy - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:38:19 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: Why have any religions AT ALL? - Goethe on 2010-March-20 06:13:14 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Why have any religions AT ALL? - Goethe on 2010-March-20 00:59:44 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- Re: On religion - Baldur on 2010-March-20 08:55:25 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- It hapened repeatedly - Connoisseur on 2010-March-19 05:20:41 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: some disagreement - lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 18:34:04 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: some disagreement - Baldur on 2010-March-19 04:23:02 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- On religion - Goethe on 2010-March-19 08:54:29 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 9)
- Re: some disagreement - Goethe on 2010-March-19 00:57:33 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 15)
- Re: some disagreement - Goethe on 2010-March-18 11:58:57 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Re: some disagreement - Ominous on 2010-March-18 11:04:54 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 24)
- Re: You are wrong - lgsinmyheart on 2010-March-18 18:04:37 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- You are right - Aramis on 2010-March-17 17:44:49 EDT, Wednesday - (0 / 0 / 9)
- Re: You are right - Ominous on 2010-March-18 02:40:08 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 8)
- They've had 1400 years to do it - Aramis on 2010-March-19 01:25:21 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: They've had 1400 years to do it - Ominous on 2010-March-19 11:10:52 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- You, like a good sheep, are falling for every - Stahntii on 2010-March-18 05:24:35 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 5)
- ? - Ominous on 2010-March-18 09:17:44 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: You, like a good sheep, are falling for every - Goethe on 2010-March-18 08:11:03 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You, like a good sheep, are falling for every - Ominous on 2010-March-18 09:31:06 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- They've had 1400 years to do it - Aramis on 2010-March-19 01:25:21 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Re: You are right - Ominous on 2010-March-18 02:40:08 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 8)
- Re: You are wrong - Ominous on 2010-March-18 12:54:55 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 32)