The question we have to try to find the answer to is who *will* listen?. We've got on one side people who believe that sex should only happen between married couples. We've got on the other side people who believe that sex should only happen between consenting adults. We're stuck in the middle of the culture wars with no allies. But is there a way we can reach the more openminded of the two?. Can we shift their thinking from consenting adults, to consenting people?. Can we convince them that if children have the right to say no, they should also have the right to say yes?. It's an uphill battle, but I'm still young and I think it's reasonable to expect that society will have evolved on this issue by the time I'm an old man. Right now we've got MAA youth who can get on-line and find a community as soon as they discover their attractions. These kids are the future, there's a pedophile born every day, and we're still alive to help them. Fuck these people who will not ever listen to us, but there are people who we can still reach.