great post. im with you on that all the way. the problem is,most people are too lazy or scared to commit to a plan and follow it through. every battle that has been won(american independence,freedom of the blacks,womens liberation,equal rights for gays) has been won through determination and sacrifice. we could do the same thing for children and childlovers,but most pedophiles lack the spine to face the government and public. do you think it was easy for women to stand up when they had been repressed and ignored for years? alot of these women were "good,upstanding" family women who were known to keep the peace,not rock the boat. some of them were disowned while others were raped and murdered. what about blacks? we had a literal war over that one. brothers killed brothers. and gays? gays used to be as feared and hated as pedophiles. they kept moving forward despite all the gay bashing and recked families. now theres us. how long will it take before we have enough guts and enough sense to stand up for our rights and the rights of children? children cannot do it alone because they dont have the right yet to vote or protest. this is a large percentage of our population that has no say at all in how they are treated by parents and government. by freeing them,we free ourselves. can we do it? of course. but i think most childlovers would rather fantasize about it than doing what it takes to get it done. therefore,the children you claim to love are still being treated like subhumans. its no wonder teens are so angry. they know the world is full of shit and they have spent all of their lives in prison,just the same as if they had been locked behind bars. well,we already know that prison makes people worse. so whats the holdup?