Okay, there are scams/honeypots etc. in (on? I think the correct is “in”, but can be both, right?) Onionland,[edit]

JackSummer, yes but they are other ways to pay for pay to remain anon (buy bitcoins) but yes, ppl who buy in connection to RL ID are idiots, IMO too.

JackSummer, also... the 20 billion dollar per year industry is made by LEA's own money etc. So they create “the industry”. Now, that's not to say that they are not sites selling CP both clearnet and Onionland, but even this wouldn't make the “20 billion dollar per year”.

[edit] Diss, as usual I don't have that much to say to you (as in agreement with you, for the most part at times).

“...that even the use of TOR would not keep organized groups of criminal businessmen selling CP free from police scrutiny. The risk would not be anywhere near worth any type of financial reward. Such a business could not proliferate "under the radar" for any length of time. “

Hitman, Passports/IDs etc. these things do have financial gain, because of the high cost.

I know of two who were CP stars, one who came out on here and one well-known on Onionland... I know this wasn't what you said, but got me thinking about it. The girls who also were in the model business (I forget the name) but came out to say they did so of their free-will and the father was arrested? (IIRC).

Do you know of any other who came out after working in the kid model world (I think some spoke out on some NN sites as well?).


”How does one simply just accidentally come across such websites? Why hasn't far larger numbers of people done the same on a regular basis? How could one prove any such pictures are those of authentic torture? And again, where are the multitude of families and former children (now adults) whom one would expect to be making public appeals in large numbers?”

Well, one can.. as in Onionland [edit] too. But more then often, such ppl are most likely searching for it. 2) Some have, other not. Maybe some didn't feel like it was “bad”. 3) Simple views, if the child is in tears, whipped or other (not BDSM-play) I'd call it as I see it.

”... who would actually support a huge international market selling films of actual torture of kids and young adolescents. This is playing upon public fears and bigotry against MAPs in the worst possible way, by perpetuating the belief that MAPs are into extreme types of porn that are so incredibly extreme that they actually have to see films of real torture, as if mere actors wouldn't do. “

Not so must as an “huge international market selling films of actual torture of kids”, but there have been forums and and studios/markets in Onionland that cater to hurtcore [edit]


Note: My net access is on/off, but do you have the same addy? (in need of talking when I'm able to get my net access corrected. Also, hi All... hope all is good.