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Re: Concise refutations of common anti arguments p 2

Posted by entelechy on Saturday, October 25 2014 at 10:38:51PM
In reply to Re: Concise refutations of common anti arguments p 2 posted by kratt on Saturday, October 25 2014 at 9:39:49PM

Teens also make mistakes with dangerous things other than sex. Cars, alcohol, money...


True, likewise with adults. I would say the latter in particular is applicable even more-so to adults.


Many, but not all. Sordid outcomes happen to adults, too.


No argument here.


If he were 13, then he should have reached the age of consent. No one cares that the parents are unaware of the relationship, or if they positively object. STDs do matter, in that you could be punished if you give STD for an 13 year old - but you could likewise be punished if you give STD to a 33 year old. So for an adult, nobody can legally require a STD test - if you trust that, as a paedophile virgin, you could never have caught STD anywhere, and your partner trusts your word on it or simply does not think to ask, and does not get STD, then no one can complain about your not having made a test about STDs. Nor would a test on knowledge about risks be required. And the freedom of consent for the 13 year old includes freedom to have sex on first date.


Yes - in this society youth would be educated by 13 as they are in places like the Netherlands with programs like Long Live Love in which STD's are discussed in-depth by sixth grade.



So, say that you get the parental consent for a 12 year old, but don´t bother with STD tests (reasons stated above) or knowledge tests or waiting for a year, and the matter comes out. What should be the punishment for you? For the parent?

Also: it is the boy who´s minor. You cannot hurt him - he will hurt you (defloration hurts whether at 12 or 32, and his penis is smaller than an adult man´s, but probably does cause tearing). If a consenting adult is hurt, not as badly as she would have been in being deflowered by an adult, who cares?
What should be important is protect the minor fathers from responsibility. If a 12 year old boy can consent to have fun in you, this does not mean that he should be stuck paying for the child. So, you should take full responsibility - and the law should permit you to take, not criminal responsibility but the obligation to take care of your children and not demand obligations from an ex-minor that he was not at the time qualified to accept.



Both the parents and the adult would find themselves in legal trouble. As for what exactly would happen, I don't know but it wouldn't be pretty and it would deter people from doing that.


Are you assuming all pedophiles are inexperienced? We aren't. Regarding your point though, passing a risk assessment test would be required of any adult with anyone under 13. Period. The adult can't pass it? Then no sex. The adult in the situation can't be ignorant.


If my pubescent friend can shoot more than blanks then it is my obligation to make sure no pregnancy results. No argument from me here, either. I would be jailed if that were to happen.




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