"Everything I say about girls, I can trace to an original source who was a girl who was an LGF at the time."

My ex-Wife is proof that you don't have to be a Pedo to come to the same conclusions with regard to the child's needs and the child's autonomy in the face of her parent's rules. All you have to do is be close, listen, and respect what you hear whether you agree with it.

I agree that it is about seeing them as "adults;" by which I mean people.

Now I didn't come out to Julia. But she could see that kids liked me. And she also knew the secret, "Dante, its because you treat them like people."

Even before I came along, Ellen and Janie were being taught to expect respect and reject condescension. If they were dining out and the waiter looked to the 'rents for what the girls wanted, he was given a glare combined with a glance towards the girls. If he still wouldn't take their order from the girls themselves they didn't go back. If he didn't even need "the look" they were sure to return.

I'm tempted to say that if you can't treat a girl as an "adult" then you can't treat another adult as an adult. And I think we've seen the evidence for that.

I've never found those who talk down to kids to make good company; and not just for that one sin.

Dante