The funny bit when treating it as an analogy is imagining that our enemies will be provoked when we ask them to rethink AoC, but will shrug off all of Ethan's other pet requests.

Apparently they see eye to eye on what is negotiable and what is non-negotiable. This would be a first in world history if it were true.

There's actually some reasons to think that getting cartoon CP removed will be tougher than getting consent for the pubescent.

Firstly; there is no such thing as cartoon CP ( with the sole exception of the exonerated. ) That which is charged as CP is all Child Sexual Abuse Imagery of the worst kind which causes sexual trauma to girls every time it is traded or viewed.

So any claim to want to alter CP laws is a claim to the right to view CSA pics and to cause mental suffering to its victims.

Now at least for "statutory rape" charges, the ages are a matter of record and often the testimony that they weren't raped or harmed is on record. We know that a 15 year old was jailed for contempt of court in Ohio for refusal to testify against her BF. So when AoC laws declare them all to be the same age "child" and all unwilling victims, we have it on record that some are young women who consent, just not in the eyes of the law.

Further, how many have stumbled across CP? Whoops, we can't know. But we can first eliminate those without computers in the modern era ( a pretty decent number. ) And we can eliminate those who only visit the major sites, Wikipedia, IMDB, Amazon, their e-mail provider. Additionally, how many who see an image online would know whether its a court-approved artistic child nude or whether it is criminal?

I think its safe to say that the number of Nons out there who accidentally stumbled upon CP, and, having done so, recognized BOTH that it was CP and was also harmless by their personal standards verges on zero. The only way to show them that most of CP is harmless ( aside from asking them to read journalists who are slandered for saying so ) is to show them CP; which makes both you and them criminals.

Contrast that with the number of Heteros who fondly recall consensual sex before the age of majority.

I can't imagine why or how he thinks that AoC which already varies from place to place is a provocation and asking to see LG rape photos isn't?

Of course we recognize that there's more to the AoC's flaws than picking a magic age higher that EVERYONE'S teen makeout sessions.

SOR reform is asking that rapists be allowed to prey on children.

And even VirPed's main stance is a ploy by future Child Molesters to have access to victims.

The only non-provocative stance is full agreement with the Antis and a promise to admit to more loathsome false accusations in the future as a goodwill gesture.

Dante