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Re: Policing and Pride Communities

Posted by Dante on Monday, August 18 2014 at 03:41:09AM
In reply to Re: Policing and Pride Communities posted by EthanEdwards on Monday, August 18 2014 at 01:59:54AM

"You get absolutely nowhere until you obey the central laws that are there, and speak against those who break them. That is step one."

GC is about celebrating GL. It isn't really a site to depress the H*ll out of everyone by posting all the press clippings from around the world about murdered and raped LGs.

However its not GC's policy to prevent such posts and its not OT either.

There have been periods where such posts were frequent enough that many of our more sensitive posters left for more positive pastures. And Eeyore famously gave his challenge to trawl the papers for good news about LGs. I've taken it up and when I trawl the news sites I wade through the death and gore to find the few rare stories celebrating girls for not dying.

However, you missed our golden age for denouncing violence towards LGs and those who do violence to LGs.

As many note, this is a predominantly American board. So calls for "Death Penalty" and "I'd like to torture him myself" had very little counterbalance with calls for equally strong but less bloodthirsty measures.

Furthermore nowhere does GC fail to condemn the person who places their love in harm's way by violating the statutes that target her sexual expression and nullify her consent. Nowhere.

We don't have to spam it in order to consistently do it.

"Many of the political ideas here strike me as similar to suggesting that the German Jews in, say, 1939, should have taken their bricks and Molotov cocktails and gone to the barricades."

Ah, the ever popular comparisons with the Nazis. Where would the Internet be without them?

Maybe Stonewall is more apt. But of course someone declaring his opponents to be futile will pick Nazi Germany.

But you may wish to recall that the law-abiding and the Kapo were cremated alike. Those who chose to join the partisans in armed resistance early on might've been radical outliers, but some of them escaped a process whose sole intended outcome was death for the law-abiding.

( And are you really arguing that the Jews brought the Holocaust down on themselves by publicly protesting exclusionary laws and property theft?! )

It seems odd that you'd chose the example where only violation of the laws afforded a possibility for living. The only legal opportunities to escape were severely restricted by '39, regular passports having long-since been revoked. The pogroms of '38 finally made it clear that the need to get out was imminent, and emigration, as difficult as it was, reaches a peak. By the following year it was becoming almost impossible and the gates were closing. Most all present in '39 had no legal recourse other than to wait and perish.

But now you're just trying to make JD420's arguments for him. ;p

Dante

Dante





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