I was arguing that sex is natural for both genders from birth. Not really arguing about sex with adults, per se.

You are right that size differences would speak against intercourse between a fully adult man and a girl before a certain size was reached.


There is still a nuance: vaginas are made to stretch and expand, and deliberate, concerted and non-traumatic usage of toys of increasing sizes to expand them, is a known method for expanding small vaginas in adult women (who have fitting problems with their male partners). I don't know how common it was historically for little girls, seeing that they would grow anyway; but the principle is valid at any age.


And there is a secondary assumption you are making. I admit it is what the mainstream also assumes. However, the more time I spend on pedo sites, the less that that assumption seems to be true for the majority of pedos. The assumption is that because man/girl is an otherwize heterosexual pairing, that intercourse is sought by the man. However, more pedos than not have claimed to be uninterested in intercourse. For them, the size argument would be irrelevant.

(I admit I am interested in intercourse, at least as a fantasy. But even in a world where it was legal, I am unidiotic enough to realize if we don't fit and stop pushing it in that case…)

Further, even with the assumption of protection for sexual access, the size differential doesn't necessarily conflict. This differential may give the adult male pedo a way to make sure "his girl" is not being unfaithful; or simply to reduce her market value against others who are not pedos. The delay to have intercourse may be a way to make sure he can imprint on her a sense of family and of duty and loyalty to him before they have intercourse. That would "lock" her into a partner position before she is ready to have intercourse, and thus make sure he is the first man she receives that way, and therefore the first who has a chance to reproduce with her.

But I don't see any of this as relevant to the question in today's world, which is something to decide based on modern morality and enhanced expectations for girls' lives.

Well I disagree with this. As you know.

But the point was at Markaba's contention that pro-contact ran counter evolution, hinting that kids had evolved to be asexual.