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Re: Shooting yourself in the foot.

Posted by Markaba on Sunday, July 27 2014 at 10:54:12PM
In reply to Re: Shooting yourself in the foot. posted by Hajduk on Sunday, July 27 2014 at 9:17:38PM

Since I am not looking for a partner, nor have one, it makes no sense to scream from the rooftops.

Who said anything about screaming from the rooftops? The fact is, people are far more likely to take you seriously if you are willing to confront them in the open. As far as society is concerned, you're (at best) an internet troll, and in fact your very anonymity just fuels their fears of a vast pedo/kiddie porn conspiracy. You have zero real-life cred as an MAP activist.

To me, it's even in bad taste. Not "immoral," just "rude" if you will. But if your sexuality is between you and your partners alone, screaming it from the rooftops is just incompatible with this: you are including everyone else in your sexuality -- and doing so in a way they can't even decline to be included. I think the same of teleios, both gays and straights, whose displays about their orientation fall into this. I would never want to reproduce it as a pedo. I will never reproduce it as a pedo.

LOL, nice try, but no. That sounds exactly like what it is: a bullshit excuse to continue being a coward. I am out, but I don't go around proclaiming my sexuality everywhere I go. There's nothing rude about what I do as an out MAP. I am a (more or less) silent representative of what MAPs are really like, and that's worth more than a hundred MAPs sitting anonymously at their computers typing "Legalize kiddie sex!" which is way more obnoxious than just admitting to the world I am sexually attracted to children.

So, I have more standing as an MAP rep than you do, and that is with minimal effort on my part. But more importantly, I am an agnostic when it comes to sexual contact, and I am doubtful about the motives of some MAPs who claim to be pro-child rights. So, I would think, if you really gave a shit about the values you so zealously claim to hold, you would want to come out and provide a different representation of MAPs than I do. As it stands, I don't find your touted values particularly convincing, and neither does anyone else outside of this forum. And now you're calling me rude for being an out MAP? You are hilarious, dude. :)

This would be true even if we had complete acceptance out there. In the instance of having to fight for rights, it is distracting. A lot more can be done (and is being done) by people who are not out and who could be harmed by outing. You know why they would be harmed by outing? Because people would question their motives. As it is, it is more valuable to me, and to many more, to fight for child sexuality, (or child labor, or education reform, or intactivism, or any other child or pedo issue) as a non-outed guy than if we were out, and we can go further. Because people would question our motives.

Yeah, you just keep on telling yourself that. It's utter bullshit, and you know its utter bullshit, but if you keep saying it long enough you will probably start to believe it anyway. By all means, please do enlighten me as to what great progress has been accomplished by all of these anonymous cyberpeds. As for me, I can no longer take you seriously.



Markaba





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