So this board DOES have uses for Anarchists? ;p

Yeah, its funny how those who would limit the child to "masturbation," still want to delineate what masturbation is supposed to be limited to.

Clearly she uses her hands later to recreate a sensation which originated without manual stimulation. Further, it involved another. AND, involved someone who may've been unaware that they were creating what ( for her ) was the equivalent of manual-genital self-stimulation.

Someone like Ethan believes in allowing the self-stimulation, but in excluding an aware other. I can only wonder what he would make of an unaware other; or what motives he would speculate about in the minds of a purportedly unaware other.

The free unfettered sexual expression of girls is really too complex to reduce down to a catalog of prohibited acts with a few permitted ONLY if carried about in a specific way.

Do we really want to be supervising our daughters' masturbation to ensure that its carried out correctly?

Dante