Awww, thanks. I am in fact new. I'm glad my posts are entertaining someone. And I get what you meant. I am just saying from that guys perception based on his argument those SHOULD be his definitions. I just find that arguments don't warrant serious consideration if they are not serious arguments. Qualifiers being internally consistency and externally applicability. Or maybe I am just an intellectual chauvinist. Who knows? I just think if Pedos want to be serious they should hold themselves to an academic standard as a good first step.