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Why this is flawed
Posted by LOD on 2010-June-09 06:04:04 EDT, Wednesday
In reply to The only purpose of the state... posted by Dissident on 2010-June-09 05:26:24 EDT, Wednesday
This is the fundamental flaw with any socialist political theory. It relies on a responsible state or a fair power, much as any capitalist theory relies on ethical business practice. The inherently selfish nature of all people is what corrupts authority to enforce their power to benefit themselves rather than for the good of all people.
It's not merely a matter of bad ethics but a matter of the cause and effect relationship of people and power. 9 times out of 10 politicians will do whatever benefits them the most even if that includes breaking the rules.
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Responses
- There are several flaws in your analysis - Scotty on 2010-June-10 16:25:43 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 37)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - Baldur on 2010-June-11 12:32:35 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 22)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - Sigma on 2010-June-11 12:45:34 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 13)
- 'Self-Reliance' - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 01:08:44 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 12)
- It was 13 colonies, not 1
- qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 08:07:08 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- So the founding myth is a lie. - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 10:00:50 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: So the founding myth is a lie. - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 10:38:27 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- I guess I'm not clear on your definition - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 10:49:02 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: I guess I'm not clear on your definition - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-13 05:26:12 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- I guess I'm not clear on your definition - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 10:49:02 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: So the founding myth is a lie. - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 10:38:27 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- So the founding myth is a lie. - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 10:00:50 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- I don't expect a statist sexist and homophobe... - Sigma on 2010-June-11 01:46:45 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- Re: I don't expect a statist sexist and homophobe. - Baldur on 2010-June-12 18:19:48 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Trade - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-13 05:33:45 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Oh, yes, I'm a homophobe. And a statist. - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 03:52:46 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Re: Oh, yes, I'm a homophobe. And a statist. - Baldur on 2010-June-12 18:02:29 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Oh, yes, I'm a homophobe. And a statist. - Lateralus on 2010-June-12 19:06:36 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- a few notes - Baldur on 2010-June-13 16:38:08 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: Oh, yes, I'm a homophobe. And a statist. - Lateralus on 2010-June-12 19:06:36 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: Oh, yes, I'm a homophobe. And a statist. - Baldur on 2010-June-12 18:02:29 EDT, Saturday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: I don't expect a statist sexist and homophobe. - Baldur on 2010-June-12 18:19:48 EDT, Saturday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- It was 13 colonies, not 1
- qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 08:07:08 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- 'Self-Reliance' - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 01:08:44 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 12)
- I just wish... - Dissident on 2010-June-11 04:45:28 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Scandinavia is not ONE nation - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:38:02 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- true - was speaking generally - Baldur on 2010-June-14 12:49:11 EDT, Monday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Capitalism and Socialism are not exclusive. - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 01:12:29 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Capitalism and Socialism are not exclusive. - Sigma on 2010-June-11 02:12:50 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Where have I ever said anything about gun control? - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 03:44:50 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Thank you, Henny :-) - Sigma on 2010-June-11 04:14:59 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Wow, that's one mighty impressive straw man. - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 09:58:29 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Thank you, Henny :-) - Sigma on 2010-June-11 04:14:59 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Where have I ever said anything about gun control? - Hen-Wen on 2010-June-11 03:44:50 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: Capitalism and Socialism are not exclusive. - Sigma on 2010-June-11 02:12:50 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - Sigma on 2010-June-11 12:45:34 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 13)
- Swedish police raid Pirate Bay ISP - Sigma on 2010-June-10 22:38:22 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Riots in Malmö, Sweden - Sigma on 2010-June-10 22:33:40 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 3)
- Good on them, that they have the guts to riot - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:52:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- No riots in America? ROTFL - Sigma on 2010-June-11 05:16:19 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Riots? Where? When? ROTFL - Scotty on 2010-June-11 06:33:31 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- No riots in America? ROTFL - Sigma on 2010-June-11 05:16:19 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 1)
- Good on them, that they have the guts to riot - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:52:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 2)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - Sigma on 2010-June-10 22:30:34 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- To address your points: - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:46:37 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-10 19:09:14 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 6)
- NO, it is not enough said - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:51:22 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Ah yes, those Haitians and Congolese
- qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 07:56:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- Re: Maori - Baldust on 2010-June-14 01:16:23 EDT, Monday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- When you mess up, you do it bigtime - Scotty on 2010-June-11 09:37:53 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 2)
- Re: When you mess up, you do it bigtime - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 10:31:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Check their cancer rates - Scotty on 2010-June-13 12:09:48 EDT, Sunday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Re: When you mess up, you do it bigtime - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 10:31:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Ah yes, those Haitians and Congolese
- qtns2di4 on 2010-June-11 07:56:47 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 4)
- NO, it is not enough said - Scotty on 2010-June-11 03:51:22 EDT, Friday - (1 / 0 / 5)
- Re: There are several flaws in your analysis - Baldur on 2010-June-11 12:32:35 EDT, Friday - (0 / 0 / 22)
- Thank you!!! - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-10 06:48:10 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 3)
- Bullshit; you're as blind as he is - Scotty on 2010-June-10 16:28:55 EDT, Thursday - (0 / 0 / 0)
- If you bothered to read my above response... - Dissident on 2010-June-10 08:44:20 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 1)
- Re: If you bothered to read my above response... - qtns2di4 on 2010-June-10 19:10:24 EDT, Thursday - (1 / 0 / 0)
- Let me correct something - Dissident on 2010-June-09 06:39:29 EDT, Wednesday - (1 / 0 / 0)