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I actually agree with you and Consequent

Posted by Iron Marxist on 2010-June-09 05:54:48 EDT, Wednesday
In reply to The working class should be eliminated posted by LOD on 2010-June-08 04:46:39 EDT, Tuesday

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Where, exactly, did we disagree? I fully agree that as much human labor as possible should be eliminated in favor of automation. Humans should be freed from as much toil as possible. That is the goal of socialists, and I believe anarchists as well. I fully agree that the working class as we know it today should be eliminated, and a system with no economic classes should exist in its place, or more specifically, a system where only the working class exists. This doesn't mean that the new working class should be doing labor that can be automated; it simply means that those who do the work actually own everything collectively and receive the full fruit of their labor in return, without having to surrender the lion's share of it to a small class of idle owners, and where no one can gain economic power or advantage over anyone else.

There is no doubt that in a classless society, the workers will be doing far less work--particularly dangerous and tedious work--than the workers of today's system. Automation is actually a bad thing for workers under capitalism, because under this system workers need a paycheck to afford pretty much everything (including most necessities), and automation displaces jobs, thereby leaving the workers who are no longer needed S.O.L. But in a moneyless system where everyone was guaranteed meaningful work, the more automation, and the less toil humans had to engage in, the better it would be for all; labor-displacing technology under capitalism would become labor-saving technology under a classless and moneyless system.

Hence, our goals actually do coincide. What I was discussing is how youth liberation would work if it occurred within the context of a capitalist system, since it's very possible that youth liberation will occur before we switch to a classless and moneyless society, possibly long before.

Iron Marxist


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