I did neither. The following is everything I've said on the subject, other people's words removed, bold added for this post. If you think there's anything there I need to take back, please quote it, because I see nothing I regret saying.

I take back most of what I said upon re-reading what you said because I think my comment that you quoted was unnecessarily rude due to how irritated I was over this whole thing, and I now regret that. However, you did seem to give Ms. Goode a lot of credit simply because she was nice and cordial to you during your correspondance. The thing is, I think she had already made up her mind about contact before she even did the interviews. Hence, I do not think she actually did an analysis of the overall situation and came to an honest conclusion, and Mes pointed out how the statements she made in the first part of the book seems to totally contradict the "conclusions" she made in the second part of the book. I don't think she came to any kind of conclusion at all, but simply parroted the popular public attitude towards younger people. The way she pandered to PJ was also a major insult to our community, considering all the harm they have done to us.

You, on the other hand, took three paragraphs she didn't even write,

Which turned out to be accurate. You felt the need to believe that the description must have been inaccurate simply because she didn't write it herself and you held out hope that perhaps the person who wrote the description described the book inaccurately. I told you from the onset that this wasn't likely, but you insisted that I must have been jumping the gun. Mes's review and the excerpts from her book that he provided made it clear that the description was very apt, just like I suspected it was.

and no other evidence at all, and went on and on and on about how terrible she was because of all the things "she said".

No, I suspected that the description was accurate. I have been collecting and reading books all my life, I have read literally hundreds of descriptions, and I cannot recall a single instance where the description was full of the types of inaccuracies that you were hoping it was full of. The bottom line: you had faith in Ms. Goode because she was nice and polite, and I didn't; I thought you would know better than that by now. This is why I got so irritated with you and why we are now having this disagreement.

I'll take evidence without a conclusion over a conclusion without evidence any time.

As I tried to tell you, Minstrel, the description was plenty of evidence. I know you still wanted to hold out hope that Ms. Goode would take a neutral stance on contact, and that the person who wrote the description was inaccurate just so that he/she could successfully sell the book to antis, but I tried to tell you that 99% of the time the descriptions are accurate and correct. This is based on lot's of personal experience, so I am NOT talking out of my ass here. I didn't mean to insult you, but I was quite annoyed that you put all of this faith in Ms. Goode. I'm not sure how many books you have read on this subject, but I suggest that you read Harmful to Minors and The Case Against Adolescence, because both of these books will make it clear that some authors, unlike Ms. Goode, are pro-youth, and that type of stance is every bit as important to our cause as being pro-MAA.

But if I do happen to come across [the book], I'll speak my mind in my usual aggressively insulting and denigrating way if I think she deserves it.

And she will deserve it. I'm waiting...

As far as your declaration that no one should have trusted her, do you suppose the book would have been better if the only people she talked to were Taf-Kat and others with his attitudes? I think my participation in the survey made a positive difference in the final result, even if the final result is not all we could have hoped for.

I will concede this point. And I apologize again for being rude. I simply expected more from this project, and I put out a lot of hope for the past year or so that Ms. Goode would be neutral on the subject of sexual contact between the generations rather than pandering to public prejudices. We've had people in our community like Ms. Goode before, so I didn't see what she did as a step forward (don't you remember my battles with Heather Peterson on GC some years ago? Her attitudes are pretty much identical to those of Ms. Goode).

In conclusion, I got really angry about this when I saw that Ms. Goode didn't stay neutral on the subject of contact. I was even more pissed off when I saw how she pandered to PJ and gave any kind of props to vigilante groups like that. Perhaps I should simply be greatful that doesn't believe that MAA's should be demonized and hated simply for having the attraction base. I apologize to the board for acting this way. Maybe I shouldn't have expected more, but after reading Epstein's book and seeing its positive attitude towards younger people, including their ability to make decisions about their sex lives, I was hoping to see something akin to further progress from Ms. Goode.