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Re: Lacks tact

Posted by Markaba on Monday, May 14 2007 at 3:29:49PM
In reply to Re: Lacks tact posted by lindsay on Sunday, May 13 2007 at 2:30:21PM

And?

I have been largely accepted by people I know in real life, despite the fact that they know that I advocate physical intimacy with children. In many cases, this includes folks who have young children themselves. Ergo, "not advocating adult-child sex" is not necessary to acceptance.


It's easy to claim you've been accepted by the people you know in real life, but do any of them defend you on a public forum? I hardly see evidence for your claims. Besides, it's one thing to be accepted by people who know you well--it's another thing altogether to convince people on a Net forum, where people can't readily read your intentions or know the particulars of your life. I don't see that you've changed many opinions of the public at large, whereas several DUers have admitted openly that I have changed their opinions on a number of MAA-related issues.

And DUers are not simply a bunch of anonymous nobodies--many of them are scientists or connected to the science field, predominantly in the English speaking world, where the real impact on this issue will ultimately be made. How many of the people who accept you and your positions are A) MAAs themselves, B) would allow you to babysit their children (I've had a few people at DU tell me they would allow me to watch their children), and C) are only friends with you because you have a highly public and notably anti-American website/blog, which is more important to them than your positions on pedophilia and child sex?

You have proven nothing beyond the fact that you have gone to DU (I'm not sure I actually know what that is) and found some acceptance amongst folks whom you have obviously convinced that you are a decent guy and not an imminent threat to anybody.

Right, and now your subtle digs are getting personal. First off, I'm not buying that you don't know what DU is. I've only posted links to it at GC several times, more than enough for you to have seen it. Your carefully cultivated Euro blasé attitude is as fake and pretentious as your affected English accent. You pretend that my contributions to the cause of acceptance for MAAs don't matter, that I'm a nobody in the scheme of things, simply because you don't like me. Unlike you, of course, Mister High-and-Mighty Girl Cult Leader (and your "modesty" about, and apparent eschewing of, that title is likewise an affectation. You know you revel in it; you aren't fooling anyone.)

Secondly, I've convinced them of nothing more than the reality of who and what I am--well, most of them. There are a couple of hold-outs, but they're pretty much assholes all-around. There is one guy who was incredibly hostile to me, a victim of incest, and even he has come to a truce with me. He doesn't entirely understand or relate to my position, but he does acknowledge that he may have many things wrong in terms of this issue. I have eminently more respect for guys like him than I do for people who give you lip service because they agree with most everything else you say and don't give a shit what you say or do otherwise. These aren't supporters; these are opportunists, and I'd wager that a preponderance of your hangers-on and "supporters" are just such people. The rest are probably just Euro-trash who don't care either way and would just as soon throw you to the dogs if it suited them.

Come off your fucking high horse, Don Quixote, and get a clue while your down there.


Markaba





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